I do believe that a big part out of this mess actually comes from healing male trauma, as it's just as bad (and a lot more covert) than female trauma. From my experience, most of us men are now split into two basic types (please bear with the generalitzation).
One type is the old school guy that will follow the steps of his emotionally repressed dad, although outwardly will appear more soft-spoken and well-mannered as the law keeps him in a stranglehold. The other type is the fearful sensitive pleasing man who is happy to be subdued by this modern female tyranny. The two are highly toxic and need healing.
Eduard, excellent analysis. I think you are correct on pretty much all counts. The two types of men, I will call them the Obeyer and the Appeaser both deny trauma and reject the requirements of healthy masculinity which reqiuires assertion of spirit over obedience to the world, and deep receptive listening and sitting with vs appeasing.
Thanks for your well-informed comment, Eduard. I appreciate the way you've broken it down. I blocked the troll above though. Can't tell if they're for real or it's just another furious extremist feminist.
Niki, thanks for chiming in. Here is what I wrote to troll-Kat: Kat, you are so typical of all the skin-deep self-described feminists out there. You don't do the work. You don't do the research. However, you have an uninformed opinion about everything. I looked up your blog (a handful of articles over a year and half), and they all concentrate on one thing: "anti-tranny". Clearly you have a negational understanding of feminism and you show it in this comment. HAD you done your research, you would have seen one of my first articles on this very topic where I take men (calling themselves women) to task for invading women's sports (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/jk-rowling-is-uncomfortably-right), or my other pro-feminist article (https://open.substack.com/pub/citizenzeus/p/what-is-up-with-the-new-war-on-women?r=2pol0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web), or even my own personal story (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/what-if-advocating-for-sex-reassignment?r=2pol0) where I describe how my innocent exploration in to feminine sensibility as a male child could easily have been identified in today's culture as me having gender dysphoria (I wasn't and never have had this issue). And just for good measure, here's an article I wrote on the "synergy" of the sexes vs. the battle of the sexes: (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/clearing-up-the-gender-mess-in-pursuit). Be real feminist. Do your research. Actually get out on the streets and "Take back the night" (as I have many times) and please, get off your uninformed, one-track high horse.
Here's what I wrote to our not-so-beloved troll, Kat: Kat, you are so typical of all the skin-deep self-described feminists out there. You don't do the work. You don't do the research. However, you have an uninformed opinion about everything. I looked up your blog (a handful of articles over a year and half), and they all concentrate on one thing: "anti-tranny". Clearly you have a negational understanding of feminism and you show it in this comment. HAD you done your research, you would have seen one of my first articles on this very topic where I take men (calling themselves women) to task for invading women's sports (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/jk-rowling-is-uncomfortably-right), or my other pro-feminist article (https://open.substack.com/pub/citizenzeus/p/what-is-up-with-the-new-war-on-women?r=2pol0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web), or even my own personal story (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/what-if-advocating-for-sex-reassignment?r=2pol0) where I describe how my innocent exploration in to feminine sensibility as a male child could easily have been identified in today's culture as me having gender dysphoria (I wasn't and never have had this issue). And just for good measure, here's an article I wrote on the "synergy" of the sexes vs. the battle of the sexes: (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/clearing-up-the-gender-mess-in-pursuit). Be real feminist. Do your research. Actually get out on the streets and "Take back the night" (as I have many times) and please, get off your uninformed, one-track high horse.
Talk to the men raping women. Talk to the men putting on wigs and invading women's sports. Talk to the men who force themselves into women's prisons then file lawsuits for breast implants. Talk to the men forcing women to carry dead fetuses.
You are not a radical feminist. Only females can be feminists.
You are a typical male who hijacks the conversation, turns it around to play the victim as a male, then act like you get to preach to women to listen to you.
You are the problem.
GO TALK TO THE MEN CAUSING THE PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD.
Want to talk about "toxic femininity"? Are we the ones running societies like Afghanistan? Are we the ones shooting up high schools?
You prove my point. Stop preaching to women, feminists, or any of us.
Kat, you are so typical of all the skin-deep self-described feminists out there. You don't do the work. You don't do the research. However, you have an uninformed opinion about everything. I looked up your blog (a handful of articles over a year and half), and they all concentrate on one thing: "anti-tranny". Clearly you have a negational understanding of feminism and you show it in this comment. HAD you done your research, you would have seen one of my first articles on this very topic where I take men (calling themselves women) to task for invading women's sports (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/jk-rowling-is-uncomfortably-right), or my other pro-feminist article (https://open.substack.com/pub/citizenzeus/p/what-is-up-with-the-new-war-on-women?r=2pol0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web), or even my own personal story (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/what-if-advocating-for-sex-reassignment?r=2pol0) where I describe how my innocent exploration in to feminine sensibility as a male child could easily have been identified in today's culture as me having gender dysphoria (I wasn't and never have had this issue). And just for good measure, here's an article I wrote on the "synergy" of the sexes vs. the battle of the sexes: (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/clearing-up-the-gender-mess-in-pursuit). Be real feminist. Do your research. Actually get out on the streets and "Take back the night" (as I have many times) and please, get off your uninformed, one-track high horse.
Sir, I must commend you on a piece well written! Not only did you shed light - beautifully and eloquently - on an extremely hotly contested issue, but you did so in a way that was balanced, fair, and nuance. You actually took many different angles of context into account...something most people forget is a Thing. Well done.
I'm trying to restack this but Substck isn't letting me so I'll try again later.🥲
Personal story time: I was never a "toxic feminist" as you write about, but I definitely partook in my share of emasculating the hell out of my ex partner (who turned out to be abusive so....f that guy...). Now that I'm in a new, healthy partnership with a wonderful man, I've discovered what masculinity in it's true and beautiful sense looks like. He loves to lead me and take care of me (in ways...like not to a codependent level) and just as he makes me feel like a spoiled woman, he says I make him feel like more of a man.
Part of that is because of how I've learned to treat him: not mommying or demeaning but respectful and allowing space.
I really wish more women would learn this sort of thing. It's not easy but holy shit does it make a difference. This instead of asking "where are all the good men!? Poor me!"
Also as a random question....what did you think of The Barbie movie? I was forced to watch it over the holidays and I had...some thoughts..🫠
Kat, you are so typical of all the skin-deep self-described feminists out there. You don't do the work. You don't do the research. However, you have an uninformed opinion about everything. I looked up your blog (a handful of articles over a year and half), and they all concentrate on one thing: "anti-tranny". Clearly you have a negational understanding of feminism and you show it in this comment. HAD you done your research, you would have seen one of my first articles on this very topic where I take men (calling themselves women) to task for invading women's sports (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/jk-rowling-is-uncomfortably-right), or my other pro-feminist article (https://open.substack.com/pub/citizenzeus/p/what-is-up-with-the-new-war-on-women?r=2pol0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web), or even my own personal story (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/what-if-advocating-for-sex-reassignment?r=2pol0) where I describe how my innocent exploration in to feminine sensibility as a male child could easily have been identified in today's culture as me having gender dysphoria (I wasn't and never have had this issue). And just for good measure, here's an article I wrote on the "synergy" of the sexes vs. the battle of the sexes: (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/clearing-up-the-gender-mess-in-pursuit). Be real feminist. Do your research. Actually get out on the streets and "Take back the night" (as I have many times) and please, get off your uninformed, one-track high horse.
You're not a feminist because only females can be feminists.
You want to make a difference?
GO TALK TO MEN.
Talk to the males raping women in women's prisons. Talk to the Taliban. Talk to the males in middle school making AI-pornography of their classmates. If you actually cared about what you claim to care about, that's what you would do.
But you don't. Because you're just another male interrupting, talking over, and looking for attention for your irrational ego, hoping you find one woman dumb enough to have sex with you. You're nothing but a pure, distilled version of the very problem that feminism seeks to address. You're not special or "one of the good ones." Good job.
Don't preach to me about how women need to listen to men looking for attention like you. You are the problem. And you just proved it.
Only women can be feminists? Not according to nearly every single noted feminist in history. And I call myself a pro-feminist male, meaning I support feminist goals and I prove it with my actions. What actions have you done to support the equality of women and their protection from violence? Complaining, casting aspersion on men, and asserting exclusivism don’t count.
Amen to that, thanks.
I do believe that a big part out of this mess actually comes from healing male trauma, as it's just as bad (and a lot more covert) than female trauma. From my experience, most of us men are now split into two basic types (please bear with the generalitzation).
One type is the old school guy that will follow the steps of his emotionally repressed dad, although outwardly will appear more soft-spoken and well-mannered as the law keeps him in a stranglehold. The other type is the fearful sensitive pleasing man who is happy to be subdued by this modern female tyranny. The two are highly toxic and need healing.
Eduard, excellent analysis. I think you are correct on pretty much all counts. The two types of men, I will call them the Obeyer and the Appeaser both deny trauma and reject the requirements of healthy masculinity which reqiuires assertion of spirit over obedience to the world, and deep receptive listening and sitting with vs appeasing.
Thanks Zeus. Yes, I think there's a lot of confusion around what a healthy male really is. Your article is spot on on many levels.
Thanks for your well-informed comment, Eduard. I appreciate the way you've broken it down. I blocked the troll above though. Can't tell if they're for real or it's just another furious extremist feminist.
Niki, thanks for chiming in. Here is what I wrote to troll-Kat: Kat, you are so typical of all the skin-deep self-described feminists out there. You don't do the work. You don't do the research. However, you have an uninformed opinion about everything. I looked up your blog (a handful of articles over a year and half), and they all concentrate on one thing: "anti-tranny". Clearly you have a negational understanding of feminism and you show it in this comment. HAD you done your research, you would have seen one of my first articles on this very topic where I take men (calling themselves women) to task for invading women's sports (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/jk-rowling-is-uncomfortably-right), or my other pro-feminist article (https://open.substack.com/pub/citizenzeus/p/what-is-up-with-the-new-war-on-women?r=2pol0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web), or even my own personal story (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/what-if-advocating-for-sex-reassignment?r=2pol0) where I describe how my innocent exploration in to feminine sensibility as a male child could easily have been identified in today's culture as me having gender dysphoria (I wasn't and never have had this issue). And just for good measure, here's an article I wrote on the "synergy" of the sexes vs. the battle of the sexes: (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/clearing-up-the-gender-mess-in-pursuit). Be real feminist. Do your research. Actually get out on the streets and "Take back the night" (as I have many times) and please, get off your uninformed, one-track high horse.
Oh thanks for that! You do what you can :)
Here's what I wrote to our not-so-beloved troll, Kat: Kat, you are so typical of all the skin-deep self-described feminists out there. You don't do the work. You don't do the research. However, you have an uninformed opinion about everything. I looked up your blog (a handful of articles over a year and half), and they all concentrate on one thing: "anti-tranny". Clearly you have a negational understanding of feminism and you show it in this comment. HAD you done your research, you would have seen one of my first articles on this very topic where I take men (calling themselves women) to task for invading women's sports (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/jk-rowling-is-uncomfortably-right), or my other pro-feminist article (https://open.substack.com/pub/citizenzeus/p/what-is-up-with-the-new-war-on-women?r=2pol0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web), or even my own personal story (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/what-if-advocating-for-sex-reassignment?r=2pol0) where I describe how my innocent exploration in to feminine sensibility as a male child could easily have been identified in today's culture as me having gender dysphoria (I wasn't and never have had this issue). And just for good measure, here's an article I wrote on the "synergy" of the sexes vs. the battle of the sexes: (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/clearing-up-the-gender-mess-in-pursuit). Be real feminist. Do your research. Actually get out on the streets and "Take back the night" (as I have many times) and please, get off your uninformed, one-track high horse.
So spot on.
Go talk to men.
Leave feminists alone.
GO TALK TO MEN.
Talk to the men raping women. Talk to the men putting on wigs and invading women's sports. Talk to the men who force themselves into women's prisons then file lawsuits for breast implants. Talk to the men forcing women to carry dead fetuses.
You are not a radical feminist. Only females can be feminists.
You are a typical male who hijacks the conversation, turns it around to play the victim as a male, then act like you get to preach to women to listen to you.
You are the problem.
GO TALK TO THE MEN CAUSING THE PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD.
Want to talk about "toxic femininity"? Are we the ones running societies like Afghanistan? Are we the ones shooting up high schools?
You prove my point. Stop preaching to women, feminists, or any of us.
Go talk to your own.
Kat, you are so typical of all the skin-deep self-described feminists out there. You don't do the work. You don't do the research. However, you have an uninformed opinion about everything. I looked up your blog (a handful of articles over a year and half), and they all concentrate on one thing: "anti-tranny". Clearly you have a negational understanding of feminism and you show it in this comment. HAD you done your research, you would have seen one of my first articles on this very topic where I take men (calling themselves women) to task for invading women's sports (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/jk-rowling-is-uncomfortably-right), or my other pro-feminist article (https://open.substack.com/pub/citizenzeus/p/what-is-up-with-the-new-war-on-women?r=2pol0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web), or even my own personal story (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/what-if-advocating-for-sex-reassignment?r=2pol0) where I describe how my innocent exploration in to feminine sensibility as a male child could easily have been identified in today's culture as me having gender dysphoria (I wasn't and never have had this issue). And just for good measure, here's an article I wrote on the "synergy" of the sexes vs. the battle of the sexes: (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/clearing-up-the-gender-mess-in-pursuit). Be real feminist. Do your research. Actually get out on the streets and "Take back the night" (as I have many times) and please, get off your uninformed, one-track high horse.
Sir, I must commend you on a piece well written! Not only did you shed light - beautifully and eloquently - on an extremely hotly contested issue, but you did so in a way that was balanced, fair, and nuance. You actually took many different angles of context into account...something most people forget is a Thing. Well done.
I'm trying to restack this but Substck isn't letting me so I'll try again later.🥲
Personal story time: I was never a "toxic feminist" as you write about, but I definitely partook in my share of emasculating the hell out of my ex partner (who turned out to be abusive so....f that guy...). Now that I'm in a new, healthy partnership with a wonderful man, I've discovered what masculinity in it's true and beautiful sense looks like. He loves to lead me and take care of me (in ways...like not to a codependent level) and just as he makes me feel like a spoiled woman, he says I make him feel like more of a man.
Part of that is because of how I've learned to treat him: not mommying or demeaning but respectful and allowing space.
I really wish more women would learn this sort of thing. It's not easy but holy shit does it make a difference. This instead of asking "where are all the good men!? Poor me!"
Also as a random question....what did you think of The Barbie movie? I was forced to watch it over the holidays and I had...some thoughts..🫠
He's trolling for attention because he's a low-status male.
If he really wanted to solve issues, he would talk to other males.
Instead, he preaches to feminists because it's a way he can get attention.
Who gives af what he thinks about the Barbie movie? He should go talk to the Taliban.
Kat, you are so typical of all the skin-deep self-described feminists out there. You don't do the work. You don't do the research. However, you have an uninformed opinion about everything. I looked up your blog (a handful of articles over a year and half), and they all concentrate on one thing: "anti-tranny". Clearly you have a negational understanding of feminism and you show it in this comment. HAD you done your research, you would have seen one of my first articles on this very topic where I take men (calling themselves women) to task for invading women's sports (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/jk-rowling-is-uncomfortably-right), or my other pro-feminist article (https://open.substack.com/pub/citizenzeus/p/what-is-up-with-the-new-war-on-women?r=2pol0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web), or even my own personal story (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/what-if-advocating-for-sex-reassignment?r=2pol0) where I describe how my innocent exploration in to feminine sensibility as a male child could easily have been identified in today's culture as me having gender dysphoria (I wasn't and never have had this issue). And just for good measure, here's an article I wrote on the "synergy" of the sexes vs. the battle of the sexes: (https://citizenzeus.substack.com/p/clearing-up-the-gender-mess-in-pursuit). Be real feminist. Do your research. Actually get out on the streets and "Take back the night" (as I have many times) and please, get off your uninformed, one-track high horse.
I don't care about you or your articles.
You're not a feminist because only females can be feminists.
You want to make a difference?
GO TALK TO MEN.
Talk to the males raping women in women's prisons. Talk to the Taliban. Talk to the males in middle school making AI-pornography of their classmates. If you actually cared about what you claim to care about, that's what you would do.
But you don't. Because you're just another male interrupting, talking over, and looking for attention for your irrational ego, hoping you find one woman dumb enough to have sex with you. You're nothing but a pure, distilled version of the very problem that feminism seeks to address. You're not special or "one of the good ones." Good job.
Don't preach to me about how women need to listen to men looking for attention like you. You are the problem. And you just proved it.
Only women can be feminists? Not according to nearly every single noted feminist in history. And I call myself a pro-feminist male, meaning I support feminist goals and I prove it with my actions. What actions have you done to support the equality of women and their protection from violence? Complaining, casting aspersion on men, and asserting exclusivism don’t count.